Nancy Pelosi, War Criminal?

Yeah, I lied, but I am a Democrat..I am allowed to!
Yeah, I lied, but I am a Democrat..I am allowed to!

The Democrats, especially on the far left, have argued that opinion that harsh interrogation alone is a crime.

How about knowledge of that ‘crime’?  Would that at least make you an accessory?

Well, than throw Nancy Pelosi behind bars.

A newly released C.I.A. memo shows that Ms. Pelosi, then the Minority Leader, was fully briefed on the interrogation program as early as September 2002, according to ABC news.  House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was briefed on the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” on terrorist suspect Abu Zubaydah in September 2002, according to a report prepared by the Director of National Intelligence’s office.  The report details a Sept. 4, 2002 meeting between intelligence officials and Pelosi, then-House intelligence committee chairman Porter Goss, and two aides. At the time, Pelosi was the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee.

The report, submitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee and other Capitol Hill officials Wednesday, appears to contradict Pelosi’s statement last month that she was never told about the use of waterboarding or other special interrogation tactics.  Pelosi stated she was never told about the waterboarding…that is a blatant lie.  First, there is proof that Ms. Pelosi was in fact given a tour of the ‘black site’ where waterboarding was to be carried out in 2003, in fact.

The report also details dozens of other meetings with members of Congress — though not with Pelosi present — where the use of waterboarding and other interrogation techniques was described.

Pelosi wasn’t the only Democrat informed of the EIT.  Senators Bob Graham and John D. Rockefeller IV and Rep. Jane Harman were just among a few of the members of Congress that were informed.

The report is accompanied by a letter from CIA Director Leon Panetta to intelligence committee leaders that describes the way it was compiled: “This letter presents the most thorough information we have on dates, locations, and names of all Members of Congress who were briefed by the CIA on enhanced interrogation techniques.”

This is the usual Democratic line.  It is easy to criticize, and tough to lead.  Just look at Obama’s promises on shutting down Guantanamo Bay.  Now that he has the power to close the facility down, he is dealing with the practical reality Bush did, which is that it is virtually impossible to find a realistic solution to the problem. For example, Attorney General Eric Holder went to Congress this week and promised that no terrorists would be released into the U.S. from Gitmo.  What he failed to answer was whether he considered the Chinese Uighurs terrorists; there have been leaked plans to release the Uighars into suburban Washington D.C., which has come under a firestorm of protests.  So Holder could keep his word, and still release the Uighars, assuming he doesnt’ believe they are terrorists.  Again, Democrat hypocrisy.

Like I said about the whole issue of investigations and prisoners, bring it on.  The Democrats were intimately involved with the progression of the enhanced interrogation program, and actually supported it until it became politically beneficial to them to be publicly against it.  Accessories after the fact, if you want to think of it that way.  It makes it even harder when common sense moderate Democrats like Harold Ford basically validate the Bush policy, as he did on Chris Matthews show this week. 

Democratic hypocrisy and lies on this issue is beyond the pail.

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1635icvGnjo

UPDATE:  The Nancy Pelosi Defense League continues to build new defenses against her indefensible lies.  First, CIA Director Panetta said that the memos he released this week were from CIA operatives own recollections, and may be inaccurate.  Way to stand up for your own people, Leon.  Then, she tried to latch on to Jane Harman who actually did object to the interrogations in 2003. Small problem, though; Pelosi knew about them atleast one year before Harman.  Republican Peter Hoekstra, who was at many of the meetings, is now demanding that there is full disclosure of those hearings to ferret out the truth; since he was at those meetings, you have to imply that he already knows that politically this will be beneficial.  No response yet from the Obama Administration.

In other words, every new defense Pelosi uses appears to be a new lie.  Her credibility on this issue appears to be nil. Great leader for the Democratic House.

 

6 thoughts on “Nancy Pelosi, War Criminal?

  • May 7, 2009 at 9:13 pm
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    MSNBC is not even covering this on their website…discraceful

  • May 8, 2009 at 1:43 pm
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    I am shocked, shocked I tell you that Nancy “let em cake” Pelosi lied? She was only following orders and the agenda set by George Soros. It must be difficult for puppets Barack and Nancy with George’s hand up their butts. His orders were clear and the agenda followed…from conspiring against this country on the war to destroying the economy in time for an election.

    George “the largest hedge fund manager in the world” Soros/Moveon: “We Bought” the Democratic Party … Now it’s our Party: we bought it, we own it, and we’re going to take it back.”

    These people should be in prison!

  • May 14, 2009 at 11:29 am
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    Leave it to the denizens of this Rightwing blog of goobers to achieve both risible and rancid hypocrisy. Case in point, the post begins with a call to “throw Nancy Pelosi behind bars,” but not one word, not even a peep, as to the perpetrators of torture, namely Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, and their stooges John Yoo, David Addington, and company.

    Your hypocrisy is risible in that in attempting the red herring logical fallacy, you actually end up magnifying the attention on the (a) crime itself and (b) beg the question as to why the United States judiciary has not brought the Conservative miscreants, Bush, Cheney, et al, to the docket.

    Your hypocrisy is rancid in that in your charges over “lying Liberals” you attempt to cover up the illegal, immoral, and unethical deeds not only of the benighted Conservative Bush administration, but indeed the immoral ideology underpinning such actions, i.e. Conservatism sui generis. It was, after all, Cheney and company that (a) instigated a war on a pack of lies (b) instituted torture as a policy of the U.S government in contravention to its laws, international laws, and the treaties to which the US is a signatory, and (c) called upon criminal (literally) attorneys to provide false justification for truly unjustifiable actions, and after the fact.

    As to your Conservative “leadership,” let us enumerate as would would Goya the disasters of your war on America: the worst terrorist attack on American soil and worst loss of American lives in the history of the republic: Under the Conservative Bush/Republican regime; the worst sustained assault on the Constitution and the rule of law in American history, surpassing in scope and ends even the Alien Sedition Act and Lincoln’s suspension of Habeas Corpus: Under the Conservative Bush/Republican regime; the abandonment of an American city in the time of natural disaster as never occurred in the history of the republic: Under the Conservative Bush/Republican regime; the fabrication of false evidence in order to embroil the republic in a war in the Euphrates: Under the Conservative Bush/Republican regime; utter and total failure of said war(s) vis-à-vis stopping Iran and North Korea from building nuclear arms, as in fact the invasion compelled both rogue nations to speed up their WMD programs and exacerbated their belligerence: Under the Conservative Bush/Republican regime; dismantling, disregarding, and corrupting all financial market oversight thus leading to the greatest economic crises since the Depression: Under the Conservative Bush/Republican regime.

    You Conservatives richly deserve your electoral downfall and your political, cultural, and social isolation, which is just the first installment of the penalties you owe for your disgraceful humbling of the republic.

    And note well, your insistence on the big lies, the distortions, the self-serving hypocrisies, and the willful attempt to besmirch the historical record as the means to draw attention away from your crimes and misdemeanors did not work, in the end, for your Rightwing ancestor, Paul Joseph Goebbels.

    It won’t work for you, as history is now beginning to reveal to your chagrin, your rage, and your hapless, helpless, and hastened decline.

  • May 14, 2009 at 11:42 am
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    I don’t want to throw Pelosi behind bars. The ‘war criminal’ title was more to irritate liberals like you than to actually a true accusation; it appears to have been successful.

    You spent 8 paragraphs ranting…and didn’t write one world about Pelosi’s clear lies. At least defend her, if you must. But you don’t even do that…because she is undefendable.

    Again, I am in support of nonpartisan hearings on interrogation; I always have been. It is Pelosi and others that wanted to make this a political spectacle. Well, you get what you ask for.

  • May 14, 2009 at 1:11 pm
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    Dear Neoavatara:

    At least you are consistent with your hypocrisy, risible and unpalatable in the extreme it is. You now claim that you “don’t want to throw Pelosi behind bars.” This conflicts with your thesis statement commencing your latest blog, and might we point out that your after-the-fact “crying-wolf” defense only further cheapens what you broadcast as your true sentiments. Either you really don’t care about the ideology you espouse and simply want to “irritate” your betters, or you switch causes to achieve effects as would an escort girl perform for her customers: it’s all for the “pay off.”

    You spend three paragraphs claiming that I “rant,” given that you encountered eight paragraphs of historical truth–––i.e., Conservatism and its fanatically cretinous and imbecilic followers have wrecked the republic economically, strategically, materially, and morally. Indeed, one would want to change the subject, and the less said the better, for you and your ilk, on that enumeration of truths.

    You, sir, are beyond disingenuous when you claim you want a “non-partisan” hearing on what you euphemistically attempt to call “interrogation”––you mean TORTURE, as Orwell would surely have excoriated you as he corrected your double-speak. You are a liar. For, you seek not a “non-partisan” interrogation over what was and is a partisan(Conservative/Republican) policy, TORTURE, but rather a non-active, non-binding, and most certainly non-truthful charade by which your party of choice and its miscreants have neither sanction to fear nor truth to divulge concerning their high crimes and misdemeanors.

    Despite your desperate attempts at the red herring and bathetic wishful thinking, Pelosi and “others” will play but a bit part in the spectacle that will see the razing and burning of what remains of the house of Conservatism, a conflagration of which Nixon could only dream even in his darkest depths of Watergate.

    Indeed, we will not only get what we “ask for”–– make that demand, i.e. war crimes trials–––but you and your ilk will get what they deserve: political, cultural, and social oblivion.

  • May 20, 2009 at 12:56 pm
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    No, No, No…
    You acnnot start with Pelosi, you Must start at the top and work your way down.
    In order:
    1. the President
    2. the V.P.
    3 the attorney general
    4. Secretary of state
    and on and on and on…
    If you MUST put a lying “war criminal” behind bars, then the above actions MUST take place – NO exceptions!

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